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Dear Sunil


 


Thanks for the query, i shall analyse the chart of Jack Welch.


Jack Welch is sagittarius rising, and the first thing that i could notice is the Vijaya Yoga in lagna. The Mars and Rahu are tightly conjunct the lagna, within an arc minute, and this defines his dynamic personality.



Mars in lagna makes a person cruel, short tempered, bellicose but an inspired fighter. He has been called the manager of the century,if you look at his Rajya Pada, you would notice that there is jupiter and Sun. Well jupiter in trines to Rajya Pada does give big titles, the fact that there is Sun has given him the title of a manager. Mercury in Al in libra has given him the tag of a maverick deal maker(libra is all about deals and trading, mercury is the trader)



His Sudden elevation in 1981 can be attributed to some important factors.
a) Saturn and jupiter were transiting Virgo, which is his natal 10th house, and also houses Venus. Thus there was bound to be good results pertaining to career.,


 


b) In Rasi The narayana dasa of Gemini was running, and it had to give results of debilitated nodes in kendra(Tasmin ...). This was sudden, and he beat out 6 other contenders, owing to the sudden factor of Ketu(Ketu can be very erratic, sudden and here he is in gemini, whose lord mercury is in AL, thus giving the sudden rise)


 


c) The narayana dasa in Dasamsa was of Libra-cancer. And it is clear from his dasamsa. Libra houses the potent venus-jupiter combo, + the antardasa was of lagna(cancer) thus giving results to the self.


 


d) His marriage has been troublesome affair. Rahu-ketu axis predominates in both rasi chakra as well as Navamsa chakra. The fact that there is mars in 2nd house in navamsa, ensured that he had some kind of secret affairs(Mars in scorpio), and also a second marriage.


 


e) The most important point ofcourse is the fact that His Atma Karaka is Mars who is in Isana Dasamsa, Maya Siddhamsa, and Karala Damshtra Sashtyamsa. WHile in Dasamsa, mars in Isana has given him the vision to take his company forward, and in Maya Siddhamsa has given him rare abilities to construct huge empire. Karala Damshtra means frightful teethed, and this would imply a strong, domineering CEO.


 


f) You can also note that Sun is in 2nd house in dasamsa, bringing him huge gains with respect to his profession. 10th lord mercury is in Mesha navamsa, signifying his fierce martian qualities.


 


g) ANother important point is the name of his famous book, which is "Straight from the Gut". Gut is the area just above navel, and rules the Manipura Chakra. It is agni tatwa, ruled by Mars, and the beeja for this chakra is Ram. Well you can see the presence of Mars in the title of His book. Now we can understand the AK Quite well.


 


best wishes
partha


Sunil John <suniljohn_2004@...> wrote:


Dear Partha,


How are you doing, would u like to analyse this chart of famous man JAck Welch, would u kindly do it on the list so that all of us learn.


 


His birth details and bio below.


 


Best wishes


 


Sunil John


 


Jack Welch, the famous ex-CEO of GE


 


Got this information from the Rodden site,


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19th Nov 1935


10.30 am EST +5.00


Peabody, MA


42N31'40''


70 W 55'45''


 


Rodden rating is a double AA


Source hospital records


 


 


 


Biography


American business executive, perhaps the most touted CEO in America over the past 20 years. The head of General Electric from 1981, Welch retired on 9/07/2001 with a record of returning more value to shareholders than even Bill Gates or Sam Walton, an increase of more than 3,000% during his tenure. His autobiography, "Jack: Straight From the Gut," became an instant best-seller upon its publication, 9/11/2001.


Welch recreated GE, taking an inefficient company into an upwardly mobile behemoth that sells airplane engines, provides mortgages and runs a TV network. A ferocious deal-maker, he was named Manager of the Century by Fortune magazine. For 20 years, Jack worked his way through GE, including the plastics division and Credit corporation, rising to the top job in 1981, succeeding Reginald Jones. When he retired, he left his hand-picked successor, Jeff Immelt. He spent five weeks on a tour to promote the book that copped a $7 million dollar advance, and was then available as a Consultant. He joined a New York private equity firm as a special partner.


A slight man who speaks with a heavy Boston accent, Jack comes across like an ordinary Joe, putting people at ease. He can be blunt, crude, coarse, profane and funny, what may be called “paht of his chahm.” He’s a man’s man with three passions; G.E., golf and the Boston Red Sox. He went through a divorce and two heart attacks along the way and admits that he could have been a better dad to his four kids. He was the only child of older parents. His dad was a conductor on the railroad and he was closest to his mom, who encouraged his self-confidence when he stuttered. He was devastated by her death in 1965.  He studied chemical engineering at the University of Illinois and started with GE in 1960 at a salary of $10,500 a year.


When his first marriage broke up in 1987, he wrote that it was “difficult and painful.” As to parenting, he could only note that he was “the ultimate workaholic.” His second wife, Jane, is a spirited Alabama-born lawyer 17 years younger than he. They both love golf and are both club champions. They live in Connecticut but vacation in Nantucket. Welch's second marriage came to an end with the public disclosure of his affair with Suzy Wetlaufer, 42, a divorce who edits the Harvard Business Review. Wetlaufer was openly delighted in telling colleagues that their relationship began in November 2001, after she completed a series of interviews to compliment the publication of his book. It was ongoing when it reached the pages of Time magazine in March 2002.


What Do You Think?


 




Dear Partha,


Thanks once again for your splendid analysis. Kindly allow me to ask further queries. as SJ


 



  • Planets conjunct Lagna degree impart their qualities to the maximum to the lagna. Thus mars and rahu would mean an agressive and domineering personality.

  • SJ: How much degrees orb is necessary for the planets to impart their qualities max to the lagna.

PARTHA:-That is given in standard texts, normally 5 degrees +/- is a influential orb. But for different planets it is different, and you can get it from standard texts, look for Varshaphal By B.V.Raman. Sun influences 15 degrees, saturn 9 etc.


 


 



  • Partha:-The rasi chart itself shows quite a few strong yogas. There is change of Amatyakaraka from Mercury to Moon(both are in same longitude). And moon is placed in 10th house from Natural Amatyakaraka Jupiter. Moon is also conjunct Ghati lagna. Sun is the dispositor of Moon, and Sun is also the Ghati lagna lord. Sun is with Jupiter the lagna lord, thus transfering the power(ghati lagna) to the self!!

  • SJ: hmm thats a wonderful way of seeing this tapestry of linking the chart. Could I ask you in a few days as to how the change of AK and AMK happens, it has been on my mind for a very long time. I would like to ask a detailed questionaire.

PARTHA:- Planets in the same degrees indicate change of chara karakas. Say mars is in 23*54 scorpio, and saturn in 23*04 cancer, and Mars is BK, and Saturn MK, then Saturn changes to BK after 28 years of age.



  • Partha:-Cult status is due to his AK conjunct lagna degree, Jupiter conjunct Mahamatya Saham. Many planets are in 21-23 degree range. And many important sahams such as Gaurava(Respect), Karma(profession), yasas(fame) are in the same degrees,.Apart from the above, he has a strong gaja kesari yoga, Raja Yoga due to debilitated venus in 10th( a special yoga for Dhanus lagna). My grandfather has written a book on special yogas for all the lagnas. i will translate it one day,

  • SJ: some of the things like Mahamatya Saham are beyond my understanding but thanks for mentioning that which once again demonstrates that there are so many factors to be seen among the charts of big timers. Why is the Gajakeshari Yoga so strong, is it because Jup is in parivartana inspite of it being placed in the 12th house of dusthana.

  • Now the special yoga for Dhanus Lagna which you mentioned is something very interesting, would you indicate as to when u intended to translate your grandfathers book, is it parampara knowledge which is not mentioned in the classics.

  • Am being greedy here, any special yogas for Gemini lagna. :))

PARTHA:- For gemini lagna, mercury in 12th house is a special yoga. Jupiter in 12th is also a special yoga. I shall list it some other day.



  • Partha :- Jaimini has said that deb nodes in kendras give wealth( a special raja yoga, Tasmin uche ..)

  • SJ: Dear Partha, I know of a chart of a lady who has Gemini lagna, Ketu in it and it is 11th from AL, but still it hasn't given her great wealth so far. I am not trying to question your authority just trying to research more, could you be kind enough to state the chapter number and verse number of Jamini Upadeshas where this special raja yoga, Tasmin Uche is mentioned.

  • Additionally, in the books of Chandubhai Patel on ARudha System also , among the very first pages he has explained this same yoga, but i was thinking if u could mention the page number of Jamini Upadeshas.

PARTHA:- i shall give it after searching



  • Partha:-Sun is his 2nd lord in Dasamsa and 2nd house in dasamsa indicates the last part of career. Sun is a KING, and he being in his own house, made him what he is today. Sun is also GHati lagna lord in rasi chakra, he is Bhagyadhipati etc etc

  • SJ: If 2nd house and lord in Dasamsa indicates the last part of career, which is the 1st part - the 1st house and lord and what do the other houses would indicate - I mean logically there can be only 3 parts -1st, last and middle.

PARTHA:-6th house is first part, 10th house 2nd part, and 2nd house final part. 6th is apoklima-past, 10th is kendra-present, and 2nd is panaphara-future


 


 



  • This I copy from my last letter which didn't reach you

  • 10) Thanks for explaining through diff dasa systems how he became the CEO.

To add and be corrected, on 20th Dec 1980, when Reg the current CEO came to his office to announce that the board had chosen Jack as the CEO, the transits as you said was that Jup and Sat in his 10th house, but  I was under the impression as to how this would give good results esp when Ven is deb over there in natal chart.


Also on 1st April 1981, when he took over as the CEO in completeness, confusingly the transits were


Jup and Sat were retrograde ??? and Mars one of his most influential palnet was in the 4th house aspecting the 10th house.


 


PARTHA:-you are missing an important point. Venus is the debilitated 6th lord, which rules competition. No wonder my grandfather mentioned debilitated Venus as a raja yoga for Dhanus lagna. Look at the dasa running Rahu-venus-saturn. And saturn and jupiter are transiting over natal Venus, what else would point to the raja yoga mentioned in the birth chart if not this!!


 


 


 


Thanking you so much Partha, it really was a brilliant analysis from you as usual.


 



  • On another note, his Indu lagna 21 deg ( u mentioned the imp of this) falls in the house of cancer in the 8th house of sudden gains and is also with Sri Lagna. For what I have learnt that for Indu lagna to give great financial wealth, it has to be aspected by benefics, a parivartana Jup aspects it with graha and Rasi drishti, Jup loves Cancer since it is here that it gets exalted. Kindly correct my thought flow.

Thanks a lot


 


Joy, Abundance and Light


 


With the blessings of Divine Mother


 


Sunil John


Mumbai


 


Best wishes


Partha


 


 


 


 


 


 


Re: Jack Welch


 


Dear Sunil


 


Retro planets are like narayana, and on April 1st, Jupiter/saturn were very close to stationary. Stationary planets are like beam of light, and they can give great results.


I met my Guru Pt.Rath when Jupiter started its retro motion, i decided to attend puri conference this year  just after Jupiter started retrograding. So dont dismiss retro planets to give results. Especially Jupiter. Mercury yes i can understand, as it relates to news and communication.


Another interesting point in our analysis,


 


In JHL there is a provision to look at the special nakshatras, for Jack welch, Dhanishta is the Abhisheka nakshatra(Coronation), and on April 1st Moon was transiting Dhanishta, and is conjunt natal 10th lord mercury.


The ashtakavarga strength for 10th house is 38 bindus, and both saturn/jupiter transiting the same, creating the perfect brahma Yoga for Jack Welch. Also note, that Jupiter is lagna lord, and saturn is 2nd lord of food(Food-is paraBrahma, from Tattireya Upanishad), in the 10th house.


 


His corrected time of Birth is 10:30:35 seconds, i think you gave 10:30 AM. This is based on pranapada lagna/janma vighati lagna rectification method.


His GL in Dasamsa comes to aquarius, and thus the Narayana dasa running during the battle on december 20th was Li-Cn-Aq-Leo


 Libra(Housing Jupiter/venus), Cancer-lagna, Aquarius(has GL), Leo-has sun , the King himself.


So some more points for you.


Feel free to ask questions, i am a super-patient guy.


best wishes


partha


 


 



Sunil John <suniljohn_2004@...> wrote:


Dear Partha,


Thanks once again for your reply.


I shall ask a detailed questionaire on change of charakaraka at a later stage, I was aware of the planets chaning if the deg is same in the chart, but i wanted to get more into what practically would happen and how it would manifest, also at what age for diff planets, I shall pursue this soon with u on a mail with diff subject heading.


 


I would request you to relook at my query on transits. I have grasped what u said about Ven being involved ina special yoga for Dhanus lagna, but on April 1st 1981 when he took over as CEO independentally, the Sat (creator) and Jup ( giver) were both retrograde. usually If i am not wrong most astrologers say that when we go to them, they ask us for the major planets to get direct, how could both retro planets give him the final pudding. whereas when the news was announced to him on the 20th of dec previous year these planets if i remember correctly were direct.


 


 


Taking over the position of CEO of worlds 10th largest company (those days it was 10th on the Fortune 500 list) during the time when both planets are retro, most of us would have predicted doom for him.


 


Looknig back at ur previous answer, 6th lord apart from competition i feel it contributes to new jobs, this I say on the basis of some new research material that has come in my hands. I shall puruse on this aspect of 6th lord and Amk's role in career wtih you and other distinguished members at a later stage.


 


If u feel I am digging a bit too deep in Jacks chart and must back off kindly let me know.


 


I do agree that sometimes i fail to grasp simple concepts also. I was planning this to be the last mail on Jacks chart as most of the queries you have patiently replied.


 


Thanking you


 


Joy and Abundance


 


Sunil John


Mumbai


9892216390


 


To add and be corrected, on 20th Dec 1980, when Reg the current CEO came to his office to announce that the board had chosen Jack as the CEO, the transits as you said was that Jup and Sat in his 10th house, but  I was under the impression as to how this would give good results esp when Ven is deb over there in natal chart.


Also on 1st April 1981, when he took over as the CEO in completeness, confusingly the transits were


Jup and Sat were retrograde ??? and Mars one of his most influential palnet was in the 4th house aspecting the 10th house.


 


PARTHA:-you are missing an important point. Venus is the debilitated 6th lord, which rules competition. No wonder my grandfather mentioned debilitated Venus as a raja yoga for Dhanus lagna. Look at the dasa running Rahu-venus-saturn. And saturn and jupiter are transiting over natal Venus, what else would point to the raja yoga mentioned in the birth chart if not this!!


 


Re: Jack Welch


 


Dear Sunil

Coronation nakshatra is important, but i am not sure, whether moon
has to exactly on the abhisheka nakshatra. because my brother won
Mr.Andhra just one day before moon transited Asresha Nakshatra(His
coronation nakshatra), So it could be either trines to coronation
nakshatra, or moon transiting close to coronation nakshatra, but we
need to experiment more.
I got my first job when moon was transiting Ardra(Satabisha is
coronation nakshatra), 2nd job in Mrigasira 4th quarter last hour,
just about to enter Ardra again, My bhagya tithi is amavasya, and
Karma tithi is Krishna Ashtami(Ashtami and Amavasya are lorded by
Rahu), Rahu also rules Ardra,satabisha, swati Nakshatras!!

Under special tithis, note that i got my jobs on either Amavasya, or
krishna Ashtami.

Thus this is an interesting exercise for us. It works, but we need to
experiment more with some 50 charts.
best wishes
partha


 

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